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September 16, 2014 9:19 am

seems just as reasonable as claiming hosting a cocktail party on a T45 is soft power

Of course, real musical soft power from the UK is Mumford and Son, Tinchy Stryder etc. Not sure we can get them to sign onto the reserve.

Maybe we should get some of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo8DlBkSW_w

September 16, 2014 2:24 pm


Now that is real austerity for the horseguards, Ditch the horses and give them ceremonial bikes-

Would that make RT- RBC ….. Red Bicycle clips?

September 16, 2014 2:36 pm

Well done the Dutch for identifying real savings, but we can go one better. I’m thinking: put Gibraltar apes on the bikes. Don’t anybody tell me you wouldn’t pay good money to see that.

As for the speech, I didn’t get past the first few minutes, right up to where he started wittering on about how army music is better than the other services’ music. And this after he was played in by the theme tune for a mythical naval hero.

Edit: btw, if twecky is referring to Mumford and Sons as an offensive weapon, then I couldn’t agree more.

September 16, 2014 3:41 pm

I have no issues with individual musical tastes, one mans Mumford is another’s 1 direction, but if the point is about targeting then i agree; but the argument is about soft power.

It is strange that the services have retained individual musical training. Or been allowed to. Must say Kneller Hall is very useful for Twickenham parking but if you are going to have a jazz/pop/rock band then it seems to me it could easily be tri-service

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September 16, 2014 5:02 pm

Going back to my favourite e- sapper Col John Ward, who took the 25th Battalion The Middlesex Regt on active duty to Siberia.

From His book “With The Die-Hards in Siberia”

” It was decided to march to the advanced outpost and take the band to give both friend and foe an opportunity to judge a sample of British music. We got to the extreme point near which a cutting in the railway gave excellent protection for the band, while the admiral’s Staff and my Middlesex guard went forward to have a look at the enemy. The band started “Colonel Bogey,” then went on to something which I do not remember, but while we were groping about through machine-gun pits, etc., the band behind began “Tipperary.” That just put the finishing touch to Bolshevik patience! This famous war tune got on their gunners’ nerves and they began to shell the tune for all they were worth.”

Now is that hard power or soft power.
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