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Military uniforms. Manufacture, supply and Fitting of a range of Royal Navy (RN) parade uniforms consisting mainly of jackets, trousers, skirts and greatcoats.

£8.222 million

 

 

 

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Gewyne
Gewyne
August 22, 2014 2:18 pm

Surely just because your seconded to a job you don’t change your cap badge ?

Topman
Topman
August 22, 2014 2:20 pm

Second pic,

Times were hard in the Navy, previously unthought locations were being found to land Chinooks.

Red Trousers
Red Trousers
August 22, 2014 4:19 pm

He seems fat and jowly, his beret is a disgrace in both shape and size, he’s wearing a bracelet (no matter that it is for H4H, it is not uniform), he can’t roll his sleeves up properly, what is that cap badge doing there….

I despair of the Andrew. Not only are they a bad joke as a source of national expenditure, they embarrass themselves in public.

monkey
monkey
August 22, 2014 4:59 pm

Is he wearing a size JJ cup sports bra? Should he be? Is it available yet for HMAF?

wf
wf
August 22, 2014 5:15 pm

@monkey, I’m still laughing :-)

Mike
Mike
August 22, 2014 5:18 pm

Red Trousers
You seem very sure of yourself to despair of 35, 000 people. I would love to see you say that to each and every one of them personally!.

Phil
August 22, 2014 5:26 pm

Good fucking God! That thing on his head has clearly been startled and is raring up. Perhaps alarmed by the android standing to its right.

dave haine
dave haine
August 22, 2014 5:43 pm

Not android….zombie!

Does the euroblob mean that world war Z has arrived?

…..I can hear RT sharpening his bayonet from here.

Observer
Observer
August 22, 2014 6:07 pm

Besides the chef’s hat, is his uniform sleeves supposed to show white? Isn’t he supposed to fold it inside out by half, roll up the insides to length, then fold the last few inches on the top down so that there is no colour difference?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=SG&v=phSKdxFvdY0&hl=en-GB

It’s almost the first thing you learn as an enlistee. Gives a rather bad impression to see the “upper ranks” forget even their basics.

mike
mike
August 22, 2014 6:09 pm

Christ, its the OC of the crap-hats.

No excuse of “I’m on ship” here.

Red Trousers
Red Trousers
August 22, 2014 6:19 pm

Observer,

That is commonly the tactical way of doing it, followed by camouflaging your arms with mud or cam cream. In barracks use is roll them up like normal. The latter requires one inch above the elbow, which clearly is not the case here. He looks like a dodgy used car salesman, not a good look for someone senior in the Sea Cadets, let alone a service which should know better.

I hope he spat on that badge before putting that abortion on his head.

DavidNiven
DavidNiven
August 22, 2014 6:26 pm

She must be one hell of a good looking lady, by the looks of it something is rising in the pants of the bloke on his right and under the Admirals beret!

El Sid
El Sid
August 22, 2014 7:02 pm

At least we can’t smell him – surely expecting grooming from a submariner is like expecting humility from a cavalryman?

[for those that don’t know, it’s Bob Tarrant of EUNAVFOR at Northwood]
http://eunavfor.eu/chain-of-command/

Red Trousers
Red Trousers
August 22, 2014 7:10 pm

El Sid,

Humility from a Cavalryman?

We’re not only good looking, we’ll kick your arse as well.

Topman
Topman
August 22, 2014 7:20 pm

@RT

Pretty difficult* to roll MTP up 1” above the elbow. It’s because of the pockets on the upper arm.

*read near impossible

El Sid
El Sid
August 22, 2014 7:30 pm

@RT

QED.

Red Trousers
Red Trousers
August 22, 2014 7:35 pm

Not my fault that everyone else has much to be humble about.

BTW, it’s Cavalry with a capital C. Like God with a capital G.

;)

El Sid
El Sid
August 22, 2014 7:50 pm

So now you’re comparing cavalry to someone who could not save his only son from a lingering death at the hands of Italian sepoys? It’s one measure of military effectiveness I suppose… ;-)

Observer
Observer
August 22, 2014 8:04 pm

Sid, ouch! lol

True in a sense but oh boy, the phrasing is terrible! :P

WiseApe
August 22, 2014 9:47 pm

Lordy, all change again!

Chap in the much maligned beret reminds me of someone, can’t quite put my finger on who….

Red Trousers
Red Trousers
August 22, 2014 10:00 pm

Topman,

The sad thing is why anyone in the Andrew or the RAF would want to sully a uniform which they patently do not merit. The more senior the officer, the more I think “you fucking poser”.

They’ve got their own uniforms. Stick to them. And don’t be fat and clearly unfit.

Dunservin
Dunservin
August 23, 2014 12:06 am

Perhaps the unstylish headgear had just been presented to him as I’ve only ever seen him wearing MTP with an RN badge on his normally less bulbous lid (http://d2rr1abu0ljhqx.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/rear-admiral-bob-tarrant.jpg).

http://eunavfor.eu/european-union-naval-force-has-new-operation-commander/

On Wednesday 16 January 2013 Rear Admiral Duncan Potts handed over operational command of the European Union Naval Force (EU NAVFOR) to Rear Admiral Bob Tarrant. Rear Admiral Potts has commanded EU NAVFOR, the European Union’s counter piracy mission off Somalia, since August 2011. This period has witnessed a considerable reduction in the number of pirate attacks, reducing from 176 in 2011 to 35 in 2012. Pirate hijackings also reduced from 25 in 2011 to 5 in 2012. No vessel has been successfully pirated in the Indian Ocean since May 2012.

Prior to joining EU NAVFOR, Rear Admiral Tarrant commanded the Combined Task Force 150 – responsible for promoting maritime security in the Red Sea, Gulf of Aden, Indian Ocean and Gulf of Oman. He brings with him extensive operational experience within a multi-national coalition operating within the region. He has also commanded a Royal Navy nuclear submarine and a surface vessel.

For more details about Rear Admiral Tarrant click here: http://eunavfor.eu/chain-of-command/

As El Sid has already pointed out, he’s a ‘sundodger’ (lower case ‘s’) but one among an elite of only four per year to pass the five-month long ‘Perisher’:

http://www.history.co.uk/shows/how-to-command-a-nuclear-sub/articles/perisher-course

To the Winners the Spoils…If they haven’t already been asked to leave, the remaining trainees don’t know if they’ve passed or failed until the very last day at sea. For those that pass, the reward is command of a nuclear powered submarine they can call their own.

So why does the Navy spend millions of pounds to run this extraordinary course each year, knowing that at best only four are likely to make it through? It’s because they reckon this is the toughest, most important job in the whole armed services.

His Commands before heading EU NAVFOR included the nuclear attack submarine HMS Talent, the Antarctic patrol ship HMS Endurance and the multi-national Combined Task Force 150 (http://combinedmaritimeforces.com/ctf-150-maritime-security/).

Whereas RT probably looks the bees’ knees, spins good dits and…?

Topman
Topman
August 23, 2014 7:16 am

@RT

‘sully a uniform which they patently do not merit’

I wasn’t aware of the merit criteria required to wear MTP, however I’ll remember that next time I’m told to wear it ;)

Deja Vu
Deja Vu
August 23, 2014 8:16 am

Returning to the contract, I note fitting is included.

Reminds me of Peter Simple’s character Gen Nidgett

From Wikipedia

Lieutenant General Sir Frederick “Tiger” Nidgett — retired leader of the Royal Army Tailoring Corps and maker of inspirational speeches full of fatuous rhetoric. His autobiography, Up Sticks and Away!, was ghostwritten by Julian Birdbath.
Alleged mentor of Tony Blair:
‘Lovers of oratory have often remarked on the abiding influence on Tony Blair of Gen Sir Frederick (“Tiger”) Nidgett, supreme orator, veteran war hero and creator of the Royal Army Tailoring Corps’.[4]

Presumably RATC subsumed into the Joint Tailoring Task Force and now put out to civilian contract with Sponsored Reserve units for operations.

And going back to an earlier post I was wondering where in the Army the trade of Fitter, Bra ,Sports will be located. Whilst the Royal Ladies Corps clearly has a good claim I can see an argument for Equipment Support.(Royal Engineers Made Easy).

Red Trousers
Red Trousers
August 23, 2014 8:17 am

Dunservin,

I made no comment on his abilities, merely observed that he looks like a scruff. Honestly, do you think his appearance is good? He should not have been let out of the barrack gate looking like that.

NavyLookout
NavyLookout
August 23, 2014 8:27 am

The purpose of this Tweet ( more than 2 months ago) was to question the Euro badge and was not intended as a personal attack on the Rear Admiral. As suggested above, anyone who has passed the Perisher course and commanded an SSN is an elite amongst our forces, deserving the highest respect. It is true that submariners are not renowned for their fitness or smartness but the majority of RN personnel are exceptionally well turned out.
Can anyone tell us in specific detail what are the rules about the wearing of EU badges when serving in EU posts – mandatory, a personal choice or a particular eccentricity of this individual?

All Politicians are the Same
All Politicians are the Same
August 23, 2014 8:59 am

@RT

” A uniform which they patently do not merit”

We would have looked funny wearing “blue uniform” in Iraq and Afghanistan :)

He should however never have put that abortion on his head. I have always been a beret snob due to having a RM Divisional Officer in new entry at Dartmouth and 2.5 years at FOST.

He does however have a sense of humour, I was down the FI training Clyde in 2008 and was having a beer in the mess with the SPEC(N) from Endurance. He was telling me about Tarrants submariner style ship handling and his obsession with momentum when the man himself arrived at the table.
He looks at me and says “aghh young man you are down training Clyde, tell me how does she handle? Not so much momentum to deal with I bet”
Well we both nearly choked on our pints. You could see realisation dawning as to why and waiting for an explosion, he just looks at us and says ” fucking cocks what are you drinking?”

Peter Elliott
August 23, 2014 9:01 am

Some of our most effective military leaders have made their own, sometimes eccentric unifrom choices.

Thinking about Wellington’s plain blue or grey coats, Slim’s adaptation of a private’s uniform, Montgomery’s gurnsey jumper and double cap-badge beret.

The fact is the fetish for smart turnout is a peacetime affectation. When it comes down to fighting no-one gives a sh1t. The submarine service especially understands this hence their own tradition of adopting ‘pirate rig’ when out of sight.

Peter Elliott
August 23, 2014 9:05 am

I would add that Slim was rigerous in enforcing uniform discipline in 14th Army on issues that really mattered. Like buttoning down your sleeves to reduce the chances of receiving a malarial mosquito bite.

It all comes back to the critical issue: does it really matter? The fact is that there are other ways to get a shiny mind than obsessing over shiny boots.

Peter Elliott
August 23, 2014 9:11 am

And another example: one of the more entertaining moments in Chris Terril’s excellent documentary series about the Royal Marines in Afghanistan involved a sniper standing-to in the Forward Operating Base wearing nothing but flipflops, a jockstrap and a pink cowboy hat. Such swagger.

Red Trousers
Red Trousers
August 23, 2014 9:25 am

Peter,

My point does not conflict with your’s. I myself used to wear a short waisted Barbour fishing coat under my combat jacket when on operations or exercise, getting the twin benefits of being dry and not rustling.

But the point here is that he is on parade, representing not just the Navy, but the UK, and he looks like a total scruff and a wally to boot in that beret. Not good enough. The Navy have enough PR problems with their Love Boat tweets and here they are letting an Admiral appear in public looking like a civvy.

NavyLookout
NavyLookout
August 23, 2014 9:30 am

The purpose of this Tweet ( more than 2 months ago) was to question the Euro badge and was not intended as a personal attack on the Rear Admiral. As suggested above, anyone who has passed the Perisher course and commanded an SSN is an elite amongst our forces, deserving the highest respect. It is true that submariners are not renowned for their fitness or smartness but the majority of RN personnel are exceptionally well turned out.
Can anyone tell us what are the rules about the wearing of EU badges when serving in EU posts – mandatory, a personal choice or a particular eccentricity of this individual?

Red Trousers
Red Trousers
August 23, 2014 9:34 am

NavyLookout,

you are meant to wear the UN badge when on UN duty, and presumably the EU badge has similar rules.

But rules are for guidance. I did three UN tours in Yugoslavia, and wore my regimental cap badge on a UN beret. No one important had an issue with it. Even Ming the Merciless (Sir Peter Inge, then CDS) didn’t have a problem with it when he came to visit, merely enquiring if I was keeping British values while on a 8 month deployment surrounded entirely by Frenchmen.

Peter Elliott
August 23, 2014 9:38 am

Its actually an interesting side effect of the rise to prominance of PJHQ. If Admiral Tarrant were commanding his task force from a flagship off the Somali Coast no-one would be too fussed.

But becuase he is doing it from Northwood he is also expected to appear at more or less spurious parades and photo opportunities.

Personally I do also find the EU capbadge a mildly offensive political irritation. Our service personal are supposed to be above (or below?) politics. But I can imagine it was considered a polite necessity for this particular occasion and he resumed his usual headress as soon as the event was over.

Topman
Topman
August 23, 2014 9:44 am

@ NL

As above, it’s more of a convention and politeness, I don’t believe there is any rule on it.

WiseApe
August 23, 2014 9:45 am

“But the point here is that he is on parade, representing not just the Navy, but the UK, and he looks like a total scruff…” – I find myself in total agreement with RT. That’s the last time I experiment with Old Golden Hen.

I think the renovation has gone well, TD. However, where’s the Union flag gone? Do you know something we don’t about events up north?

Peter Elliott
August 23, 2014 9:51 am

Not that I am at all against PJHQ. Admiral Cunningham realised in 1943 that it was more important for him as C-in-C Med to stay on shore and liaise with his counterpart in the Airforce than it was to be onboard one of his ships. By the time of the Falklands this had been institutionalised: Fieldhouse was in command, not Woodward.

Its just the way of the world I guess that in a home country the civilian peacetime world will intrude on an operational commander much more than it would if he were located ‘In Theatre’.

monkey
monkey
August 23, 2014 10:39 am

In the first picture the First Sea Lord looks extremely pleased with the turnout of his own troops rig. Admiral Zambella I think has plans intergrating the RM much more closely back into the Navy . Often we talk of ‘deployability’ on this site usually meaning by air but often comes back to that the tonnage we can move by our air fleet is rather limited both in size and range. The usual conclusion is by land and by sea is the only real way of moving serious numbers . Zambella’s area is the sea and he wants his troops firmly under his umbrella so the RN can offer a credible expeditionary force . At 18knts a fleet can reach 3500 miles in a week , contracting in one or two of the latest Ro-Ro transporters (the bigger ones are bigger than the Nellie’s and have 50,000m sq of deck space) you can ship a hell of lot of kit quite quickly compared to even a full fleet of 8 C-17 and 24 A400M. Zambella in his recent interview gave thanks to the foresight and gamesmanship of his predecessors and I think his successors will be thanking him .

dgos
dgos
August 23, 2014 6:48 pm

As a civvy I should not really comment but surely Endurance a was written off as a result of a poor bit of engineering – critical water intake and had single isolation valve and filter- surely a CO’s should have picked this upon routine checks on critical points.

As process engineer on a high pressure gasmaking plant and later as Grid Controller I spent half my life checking and cross checking critical points on plant/ system.

Did not skipper of Astute pass perisher?

Surely if there is a dress code then it should be followed – I noted London Police Commissioner in half and half shirtsleeves when appearing at public meeting and on TV

Noticed today all three of the dodgy OPV have left Barrow.

Dunservin
Dunservin
August 25, 2014 11:41 am

Military uniforms. Manufacture, supply and Fitting of a range of Royal Navy (RN) parade uniforms consisting mainly of jackets, trousers, skirts and greatcoats.

£8.222 million

These items are probably for onward sale, issue or temporary loan via a contract tailor. Some might also be bound for RN clothing stores, otherwise known as 'slops'. If the system has remained unchanged since I left, RN officers are given an initial 'gratuitous issue' of the basics. Thereafter, they buy their own replacement uniform items from naval 'slops' or via civilian tailors while receiving a few hundred pounds per year in tax relief known as 'Uniform Upkeep Allowance'. I don't know whether the relatively small one-off payment of 'stripe money' on any promotion still applies. Ratings are issued uniform on a one-for-one exchange basis.

A naval officer’s reefer jacket and trousers cost £1.5k from Gieves and a greatcoat, not part of standard kit these days but issued on temporary loan for ceremonial occasions, costs £2.5k. A Flag Officer's Ceremonial Day Coat cost £3.75k. Cheaper commercial sources are available.

http://www.gievesandhawkesmilitary.com/acatalog/Royal_Navy_Uniform.html

I suspect someone might be anticipating the odd state ceremonial event involving naval personnel lining the streets in their best bib and tucker.

Red Trousers
Red Trousers
August 25, 2014 12:15 pm

Dunservin’,

Largely the same in the Army. My uniform allowance when I left Sandhurst was I think about £1200, which (unsurprisingly) exactly matched the cost of my Service Dress (khaki) uniform. On top of that were Blues, Messkit, gold and leather cross belts, sabre and scabbard, scarlet and khaki caps, khaki jodhpurs, spurs, silver and woven badges, riding boots, crop, mess wellies….. There was a thriving second hand market, I had some gear passed on by the old man and a cousin, but it was still another two grand on top.

Kent
Kent
August 25, 2014 3:05 pm

The admiral is clearly not in Afghanistan, so why the camouflage uniform? And, yes, I’m bothered by the almost universal wear of the US Army’s stupid ACU by just about everyone at occasions that really call for Class A’s. While we’re at it, I’m still p!$$ed off about losing the Class B khaki uniforms for the bus driver uniforms. And don’t get me started on the “Army Dress Blues for everyone” uniform…

Dunservin
Dunservin
August 29, 2014 11:25 am

He’s moved:

Navy’s outgoing anti-piracy chief warns the threat still exists

https://navynews.co.uk/archive/news/item/11225

We must not let up our guard against pirates says the senior Royal Navy commander who’s standing down after 18 months keeping them in check.

Despite just five attacks by the modern-day buccaneers all year, Rear Admiral Bob Tarrant says the world’s navies and merchant shipping companies mustn’t take their eye off the ball. Handing over command of the Operation Atalanta, the European Union’s long-standing counter-piracy mission, to the head of the Royal Marines, Maj Gen Martin Smith, the admiral said Somali pirates had been checked by concerted international efforts – but they had not gone away…

Since the beginning of 2013, only nine attacks have been made – compared with 176 in 2011 and 35 in 2012. Just one ship – and 37 hostages – are being held by pirates…

Taking over the reins of the force – comprising ships from Italy, Germany, Spain and the Netherlands at the end of August, but there can be as many as ten vessels under the EU NAVFOR banner – Maj Gen Smith’s domain covers a vast expanse of ocean from the Bab al Mandab strait down to the Seychelles and Tanzania…

Political direction comes from the EU’s Political and Security Committee, to whom the Maj Gen is directly answerable and EU NAVFOR operates under a renewable mandate agreed by all 28 member states.