Are We Really Selling These Off?

Is this a trials vehicle, a manufacturers demonstrator or another nations allocation, or, are we really selling off the practically brand new MAN SV fleet?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAN-SX25-440-6×6-EX-MILITARY-CHASSIS-CAB-2008-CHOICE-OF-2-/161113831393

H/T Paul G

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  1. Chris

    If I remember right the SX 6×6 was intended to be the chassis for the fuel bowser, but the decision in the end was to use the simpler (cheaper) HX 6×6. I don’t think the SX 6×6 was taken on. So these two are probably the trials trucks?

    Really testing the memory now; the HX has C-channel chassis rails (as used on MAN commercial trucks) with leaf-sprung axles. Transmission is an automated 12-speed manual box (as in a dry-clutch and fork-selected synchromesh gears but with computer controlled actuation) directly coupled to the engine. The SX has a much stiffer chassis using box-sections, coil-sprung axles and a normal automatic transmission using torque converter and epicyclic gear sets mounted away from the engine towards the centre of the truck. The SX has better mobility and is much stiffer, as in the chassis twists far less when moving over uneven terrain. Quite different underneath, even though at first sight they look alike.

  2. Derek

    Chris,

    That sounds correct, the SX model is the Gucci model, only a tiny portion of the UK order was SX vehicles.

  3. Think Defence

    A few more details on the models

    5213, Cargo Vehicle Light CV(L)- Medium Mobility – 6 tonne (4×4)
    376, Cargo Vehicle Medium CV(M) – Medium Mobility – 9 tonne (6×6)
    105, Cargo Vehicle Medium CV(M) – Improved Medium Mobility – 9 tonne (6×6)
    923, Cargo Vehicle Heavy CV(H) – Medium Mobility – 15 tonne (8×8)
    230, Unit Support Tanker (UST) – Medium Mobility – 9 tonne (6×6)
    81, Unit Support Tanker (UST) – Improved Medium Mobility – 9 tonne (6×6)
    288, Recovery Vehicle (RV) – Improved Medium Mobility (8×8)
    69, Recovery Trailers

    HX = Medium Mobility
    SX = Improved Medium Mobility

    http://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/2011/07/the-future-of-the-british-army-09-wheels-a-sensible-solution/

  4. Chris

    TD – by your figures then there are 186 SX 6×6 trucks still in the inventory. I must admit I struggle to see the advantage in the 230/81 UST split, or indeed the 376/105 CV(M) split, given the significantly different support needs of the two chassis types – particularly if each unit gets 1 SX for every 3 HX trucks. Slightly better support burden if all the SX chassis trucks are in specific higher mobility units.

    But then again with all the MAN trucks on the inventory the MOD chose to buy (lease?) Iveco Trakkers for the big dump trucks, so clearly support is nowhere near the problem those of us outside the MOD think it is.

  5. Richard_L

    Look at his other items – the seller’s also flogging 4 of the 8×8 heavy recovery truck for £165,000 each and a single 4×4 flatbed/crane variant.

    Also come to think of it, how come it’s not Witham selling these?

  6. Chris Werb

    With regard to the recovery variants, is it just that we purchased more than we needed to support the force structure that we’re moving to? Presumably these things replaced the Fodens a few years ago, therefore there must have been enough bought to support the force structure that existed then.

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