Warfighter Alert

The more you look the more you find the ridiculous term ‘warfighter’

In March this year I commented that the term was as usual, a pathetic attempt at following US military fashion and we should bloody well stop it and get our own terminology.

The latest sighting is in DESIDER, the internal magazine for DE&S, Page 35 of this July’s edition it has emerged in print!

It described how ‘experienced warfighters’ are helping to develop new capabilities, is there an inexperienced warfighter?

Can we just bloody well stop please, its quite sad!

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ArmChairCivvy
ArmChairCivvy
July 26, 2011 6:53 am

Certainly agreed…

But what I found more interesting in the DE&S news is that Lusty is already in sea trails. A year ago she was planned to be back (in service) Spring 2012?
– is this acceleration an indication of how hard Ocean has been worked?

Hugh
Hugh
July 26, 2011 7:49 am

The BBC seem obsessed with the term ‘warplane’. Only they seem to know what they mean by that.

DominicJ
July 26, 2011 8:03 am

‘is there an inexperienced warfighter’?
The french?

Brian Black
Brian Black
July 26, 2011 9:05 am

How about “death-technician”? At least until someone comes up with something better.

elizzar
elizzar
July 26, 2011 6:06 pm

i’m surprised the loony left in the uk allow this term anywhere, considering police forces are now police services, and we have a ministry of defence, not of war … would have thought our soldiers would be something like “fluffy peace implementers” …

Pete Arundel
Pete Arundel
July 26, 2011 6:07 pm

“a pathetic attempt at following US military fashion and we should bloody well stop it and get our own terminology.”

Err . . . we do; Soldier.

Alan
Alan
July 26, 2011 7:17 pm

How about “Pre-emptive defensive measures implementers”?

Paragon
Paragon
July 27, 2011 11:16 am

Nation builders? Multi faith outreach consultants? How about austerity implementers?

jackstaff
jackstaff
July 28, 2011 11:50 pm

Dominic,

Cheek. And not really right but we wouldn’t be a British defence forum if we didn’t say it.

Pete Arundel,

This. There is enormous and positive power in both the concept and the term.

All,

Non-peaceful foreign policy implementation artisans? Somewhere an evil human resources consultant just tented his mac at that one. But I’m afraid Paragon’s got it right at the end ….

Dangerous Dave
Dangerous Dave
July 29, 2011 2:01 pm

:

Eh? how can one be an austerity implementer, when the whole defence budget only consumes 2.5% of GDP? Surely Employment Centre & NHS employees deserve that term more (based on the % GDP that we throw at those services).

: I wonder how Jed would have reacted to being called a soldier when he was in the Senior Service.

@All: We could go all Celtic and call Service(wo)men Warriors, or maybe Armaments Operatives or, possibly, Sheepdogs (as in protecting wayward sheep from Wolves) :-?

ArmChairCivvy
ArmChairCivvy
July 29, 2011 3:28 pm

“an austerity implementer” implies doing it to someone else – not to yourself?
– does not get my vote

Warrior President did wonders to vote count – no wonder the others had to be called something else (Warfighters)

navalgazer
navalgazer
July 29, 2011 5:06 pm

@ArmChairCivvy

HMS Ocean has spent nearly 8 of the past 13 months at sea. Apart from the need for routine maintenance, I’m guessing her ship’s company would like some time at home earlier than Spring 2012.

ArmChairCivvy
ArmChairCivvy
July 29, 2011 5:16 pm

so, that sounds hard, indeed.

From Ocean to Lusty, still ship’s companies rotating. But when Lusty will be retired, then Ocean, and we go over to a much bigger ship, that must be a challenge?

navalgazer
navalgazer
July 29, 2011 5:33 pm

Thanks to more advanced technology incuding automated systems, the complement of the QE Class is meant to be comparable to that of the Invincible Class. Mind you, it comes at a cost.

ArmChairCivvy
ArmChairCivvy
July 29, 2011 5:44 pm

… and loss of operational resilience?

I’ve never quite clearly understood how much of the total manpower can be redirected to damage limitation parties.

That is in per cent; when to the total shrinks, the % might not apply anymore, because ” no one” can be spared?

navalgazer
navalgazer
July 29, 2011 6:28 pm

Certain personnel will always be dedicated to damage control and fire-fighting in action and this is factored in to a ship’s manning. However, the Command always shifts the order of priority of ‘Float, Move, Fight’ as befits circumstances and the entire ship’s company reacts accordingly.

Smaller ship’s companies may mean less resilience but that’s what happens when manpower costs constitute c.37% of the Defence Budget.

Perhaps a greater problem is that today’s paucity of hulls (viz Ocean/Illustrious) leaves no margin for attrition and is liable to encourage a risk-averse approach by decision-makers at every level, from strategic to tactical.

ArmChairCivvy
ArmChairCivvy
July 29, 2011 7:45 pm

Indeed ” paucity of hulls (viz Ocean/Illustrious) leaves no margin for attrition and is liable to encourage a risk-averse approach by decision-makers at every level, from strategic to tactical.”
– they are one at a time, but even then there is some “fungibility” between the prized one& only asset and the rest of the amphibious task force
– with carrier strike, this (decision making) dilemma will be even more acute?

Jib Halyard
Jib Halyard
August 1, 2011 8:01 am

i was rather proud to call myself a “soldier” back in the day. it sounded simple and hard. still does, to these old ears.
“warfighter”, on ther hand… seems to positively ooze with adolescent insecurity.

IXION
IXION
August 5, 2011 3:13 pm

I’m cool with all this, there are fashions and changes in terminology all the time.

If you want to replace soldier sailor and airman with Warfighter its just a word..

Like I said before

How often are Grenadiers throwing grenades any more than any other unit?

Why are RM ‘Commandos’?

When was the Durham ‘Light infantry’ last any Lighter than any one else?

Do ‘The rifles’ Carry a different rifle to any other infantry?

Almost all the ‘Airmen’ in the Raf don’t spend much time in the air. A lot of Flight leutenants never fly anything…

Just coz they are hallowed by time don’t make them accurate or descriptive titles.

Warfighter – One who fights wars. (If I may mix my advertising metaphors): Does was it says on the tin, Simples!