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We have had lots of discussion recently on politics, SDSR etc, but I have used the debate in the blogosphere about the cancelling of the USMC Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle (EFV) programme as an excuse to return to a “shiny kit” type of article!

A guest post from Jed

The cancelling of EFV has had lots of impact in the USN / USMC community. There has been much discussion about whether the basic concept of operations needs to be revised, whether storming a beach in an armoured vehicle is even do-able against ‘near peer’ enemies, whether the LCAC is vulnerable, whether the MV22 is good enough at what it’s supposed to do, whether the LPD 17 class is too expensive etc.

Royal Marine Landing Craft Air Cushioned             LUPUS 2 in Norway

You can visit Solomon’s SNAFU blog, or Information Dissemination, or take a quick peak at this USNI blog post to get the flavour of the conversation.

Remember though, the EFV was built to a set of requirements – requirements that many would say were simply too much. The conops was for USN amphibs to stay over the visual / radar horizon, and so the EFV had to be fast on the water to cover the distance to shore (25nm) fast enough to cut down the period of vulnerability. Once ashore it had to be better armed and protected than its predecessor (the venerable AAV7), include protection against big IED’s and have land mobility to allow it to keep up with M1A1 MBT’s – is there any wonder it ended up costing so much it would simply have swallowed up too much of the USMC’s budget.

Right tool for the right job

My initial thought was that it would be better to stick with horses for courses. Rapid ship to shore movement by hovercraft in the shape of LCAC (and its improved successor) or alternatives such as PASCAT and L-CAT type vessels, plus armoured vehicles that maybe amphibious, but are designed primarily for protection and land mobility. Many such armoured vehicles already exist, both wheeled and tracked, and indeed the USMC also has a requirement for a new APC.

However, this leaves a requirement for a fast amphibious vehicle to get Marines ‘feet dry’ in the face of enemy fire. This is where my ‘modest proposal’ for an assault hovercraft that is a little more ‘souped up’ than the RM’s current type (the 2400TD) comes in. (By the way, why don’t these have an RWS instead of an open “freeze yer boys off” MG mount ?)

I won’t re-hash the fact that the hovercraft is an excellent British invention, or that we had the amazing Vosper Thorneycroft VT2well before the Yanks were thinking about JEFF-A and JEFF-B, I will stress though that in the shape of Griffon Hoverworks, we have probably the biggest manufacturer of hovercraft in the world (at least in terms of number of customers, if not in terms of sheer volume of vehicles delivered).

The biggest purely military craft that Griffon Hoverworkproduce is the 8100TD, which is in service with Sweden and a number of other countries. The Swedish variants have some ballistic protection (wheelhouse armoured against 7.62mm ball), and with a payload of 12 tonnes can carry a BVS10 type vehicle internally. It has a length of 21.3 meters by 11 meters in the beam and can do 45 knots fully loaded. See this page for more details. This is only slightly longer, but substantially broader than the LCVP Mk5 which can carry 35 Marines at up to 25 knots (15.5 m x 4.3 m).

The Modest Proposal

I would suggest an armed and armoured version of the 8100TD might make a pretty good assault hovercraft, so since an RM Bootneck with a full Bergen and lots of kit for an “extended stay’ somewhere might tip the scales at up to 150kg, but if only tricked out in fighting order for the initial assault that might drop to 100kg each, I reckon we get between 40 and 60 troops onboard if we cut our payload to 6 tonnes.

For our 6 tonnes of additional kit, I would pick and chose from systems developed for helicopters, and systems developed for armoured vehicles. So for example helicopter style night vision compatible avionics and displays would take over in the cockpit, which might include both aluminium armour, but also lightweight boron or composite armour developed for aircraft applications. Certainly, thick bulletproof glass as used in MRAP’s would be required for the windscreen and windows of the control cabin / cockpit.

Just as an example an STK dual-weapon RWS with 7.62mm MG and 40mm GMG comes in at 350 kg including ammo, and includes daylight and thermal imaging systems. If you take an active protection radar sensor suite designed for armoured vehicles and add the attendant anti-missile system, we might add 50 kg in antennas and I will use the Metal Storm Redback as an example of the anti-missile launcher, as these weight 70 kg each. I can’t find any weights for a loaded AN/ALE40 chaff and flare dispenser, but I can’t see them being more thank 30kg each?

We have used 850kg so far. Perhaps with ESM and laser warning antenna sets we might be up to a tonne, which leaves us 5 more to play with. Perhaps 500 kg might be used on the Textron TRAPS “anti-RPG airbag” system (shown below) to give a second layer of defence against incoming threats?

So lets say conservatively we have 4 tonnes with which to provide armour protection up to 7.62mm and artillery / mortar shrapnel for the main cabin, propulsion fan shrouds and enhanced protection (12.7mm AP ?) for the wheelhouse.

1 – Wheelhouse repositioned to the centre, with two hydraulic ramps, 1 either side for troop egress.

2 – port and starboard RWS

3 – Port and starboard forward smoke grenade dischargers

4 – Port and starboard Redback 40mm weapons system as part of anti-RPG / anti-missile system.

5 – wide sliding side doors – both for troop egress or for helicopter style machine gun mounts

6 – Port and starboard AN/ALE 40 chaff and flare dispensers.

Back to the context of an alternative to a hydroplaning amphibious armoured vehicle. The 8100 Armoured Assault can deposit 60 Marines feet dry after running in from over the horizon at well over 45 knots, jinking and manoeuvring as only a hovercraft can at that speed. With full threat detection kit, it can do its best to avoid being hit on the run into the beach, flying over mines in shallow waters and on the beach.

Closer to the enemy it can put down suppressing fire with 40mm grenade launchers (with air bursting munitions if required) and possibly up to 4 x 12.7mm MG’s. Active protection systems provide close in defence against RPG’s and guided anti-tank missiles. 2 such vehicles can deploy a company of 120 heavily armed Marines within minutes, clearing out enemy snipers or RPG / MG and mortar teams waiting to ambush the unprotected LCAC coming in the next wave. Such a vehicle would obviously have other littoral and riverine uses.

Of course as it has been pointed out in the USNI blog posting I linked to at the beginning of this article, hovercraft require extra wet dock space, whereas AAV7 / EFV or amphibious APC’s take-up vehicle space on the cargo decks, and unfortunately the 8100TD is not that much smaller than an LCAC (26.4m x 14.3m). Having said that, many commentators have suggested the USN should be buying more, cheaper Schelde Enforcer type amphibs rather than gold-plated LPD17’s,

How about 6 for the RM and we could ship them to trouble zones on a hired merchant?

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  1. x

    @ Anixtu

    I see it as a replacement for the LPD/LSD; for a while I haven’t been too sure about helicopter warfare (moving troops tactically by air.) I think marines should stick to the littoral and what is needed is more better landing craft not a few expensive helicopters.

    This picture from Global Security is close to what I envisage,

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/mlp-image01.jpg

    Ships like MV Blue Marlin take hours to flood when lifting ships and drilling rigs,

    http://www.nuestromar.org/imagenes/noticias/110806_blue_marlin.gif

    But to take aboard shoal draft craft like LCAC or LCATs would only take a fraction of that time. I don’t see why a ship couldn’t flood down whilst moving in moderate seas. Of course
    amphibious operations close to shore are suspended in conditions above Sea State 3. I suppose the ship could be anchored or use dynamic positioning.

    The French LCAT are supposedly cheaper to operate and more sea kindly than LCACs.

    It simply makes more sense to me to get more bodies and kit to the shore as quickly as possible. Helicopters and conventional landing craft can’t do this.

  2. Anixtu

    @ x

    I’m still not certain what you intend to employ this hypothetical semi-sub amphib for. In place of LHD/LPD/LSDs? What sea states can it launch landing craft in? Does it have to anchor when docking down and launching landing craft? How long does it take to dock down? What weather conditions can it handle with landing craft as deck cargo?

    Call me conservative, but why is it better than an LHD/LPD/LSD with a very big dock?

  3. x

    @ Jedibeeftrix

    I know they won’t fit. But I am sure those nice Korean chaps will make us something they will fit in the time it takes BAE to select the director for the corporate video for next GB public mega-project.

    @ Pete A

    Funnily enough as somebody who has driven Land Rovers up and down rivers I do know what you are on about! Finding somewhere for even 7.50 directional tyre to get purchase is hard. And then is the depth problem. A yard of water is an awful lot to extricate yourself from. But I also know as somebody who has driven large 4×4 tractors once you have diff-locks, a diesel engine over 5ltrs, and some very low gearing things don’t look so insurmountable. I don’t think all rivers can be crossed, but a good number could be.

    As for armour protection well all “army vehicles” are designed to balance armour against firepower against mobility to meet the goals of their intended purpose. Most of the modern 8×8 type vehicles that meet or nearly meet the FRES specs are amphibious so light armour has already been dialled. Of course the army could do away with FRES and just buy a super armoured IFV like the Bradley. Oh yes forgot the Bradley is amphibious…. (Cheating actually it isn’t a vehicle I would like to take for a swim.)

    My main concern is speeding ship-to-shore movement. Speeding the offload of landing craft.

    But no I do take you points and I agree with you.

  4. x

    @ Anixtu

    Yes it would be huge!!! But the sea is big so……..
    I only said 12 because I knew somebody would bite. ;-)

    No 8 would be more sensible I grant you and yes big. But if you look at vessel such as the MV Blue Marlin,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Blue_Marlin

    and compare it to something like the USS Wasp Class,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Wasp_%28LHD-1%29

    you will find the latter is longer by 106 feet.

    The Marlin is very broad beamed I grant you but it is only 23ft wider than Emma Maersk. And that is the real limiter and that is what would bring about the need to reduce the number of LCAT’s carried to something more sensible like 8 or 9. Saying that there is space on the MV Blue Marlin for 12 or so LCACs or LCATs. As I said all that is needed is an accommodation/vehicle deck over the free deck and Bob’s your aunty. Or not.

  5. ArmChairCivvy

    Hi Jed,

    RE “crossing over sandbanks and marshes to discharge troops in the enemies rear etc – yes I know the helicopters and MV22′s can do that too ”
    – when we were in the littoral (LOG) discussion, I proposed fitting these things out with GMLRS or AMOS (helos and close relatives no can do…that)
    – of course once you do that, you need a couple more to carry the troops/ do the patrolling
    – someone shot down the GMLRS idea (the Germans had tried and failed to navalise it, so this would be one step more ambitious…)
    – so no 70 km range, but the AMOS 10-12 km is good enough, especially when a 2 minute burst corresponds to a salvo of a whole 155mm battery
    – so light and fast patrols, and lots of fire power if you can bait anyone out of the hiding?

  6. B.Smitty

    Jed,

    I’m not advocating a return to the EFV (though it may end up looking cheap once all these mind-changing and program reset costs are factored in). I agree that to reduce risk, we have to get rid of the OTH capability.

    What we can do is build a new AAV with modest gains in water performance, but better protection, armament, and land mobility.

    Couple it with a more survivable means of approaching shore, outside HMG, cannon, and ATGM range. Then let the amtrack go the rest of the way.

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