Boat Barriers

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Someone on the recent Gibraltar thread mentioned barriers and spraying pig poop at the Gurdia Civil nuisance boats in the waters off Gibraltar.

The pig idea sounds amusing but passive measures might be the next best thing to giving the sad ‘look at me’ losers in the Guardia Civil a good stiff ignoring.

A quick Google throws up some interesting solutions although some do seem to have a chequered past in terms of effectiveness and resistance to marine growth.

Trelleborg/Dunlop

A British solution that uses the fuel dracone, as used in 1982 down South

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Read the PDF here

 

Halo Maritime

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Whisper Wave

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Harbor Offshore

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Worthington Tuffboom

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Armorfloat

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Red Trousers
Red Trousers

Quite impressed with the WhisperWave demo (2nd video).

Not sure if it is cleared for prime time and use with lovely fluffy CIVPOP or Guardias, but my old US company make a directed energy weapon that works by microwave, heating up the outer 1/64th of an inch of skin to “getthefugouttahere” un-ignorable levels.

Probably several escalations too far for Gibraltar, but huge fun (I and a few others got to guinea-pig it prior to DSEI a couple of years ago). Jesus, there’s no arguing with that, and yet 5 seconds later all pain has gone and there’s no skin or tissue damage).

(Note to self, there are at least a dozen milder forms of putting your point across before reaching for directed energy weapons, and even the mild usage of DEW is going to look bad on the UK’s CV in the international court of public opinion)

We (the UK BD crew) got into the most enormous amount of trouble internally for immediately christening the non-lethal microwave device the “Death Ray”. Ruined all sorts of corporate do-gooding, and resulted in all sorts of finger-wagging from my US boss ( :( ), neither of us keeping much of a straight face after I reminded him of a story he told me of his doings as a young Lt in the US Army in Vietnam. After all, if you deliberately flood an entire village in order to drive the inhabitants away to create a free fire zone, you don’t have much of a leg to stand on.

Gareth Jones
Gareth Jones
dave haine
dave haine

I rather like the rubber dracone thing- not least because the video of a GC boat driven full chat into one of those and bouncing off in bits is going to be hilarious, and the occasioning of much piss-taking, about the GC not being able to defeat a giant rubber balloon, etc etc. Cue spanish red facedness.

Plus we’d be able to say it was a soft play device to stop the little dears hurting themselves.

Joe88
Joe88

Very anti-EU, anti-friendship. We have to continue to rely on the very good competence, professionalism, and greatly performing Gibraltarian and M.o.D. officers, staff and etc. Clearly these guys and everyone involved on the side that isn’t Spanish, have not ill-performed to their remit and duties at any point whatsoever, and Gibralatr will simply continue like it is, with a main aspect of it’s status, being devolution continuing for a very long time, at varying degrees (of devolution). Lest we forget the rise of the Middle East, and it’s North African neighbourhood. Quetta will ultimately scupper this Spanish project.

Joe88
Joe88

^^^ #Cueta, and Melila.

Jed

Sorry but I have to ask – do you think HALO Maritime is run by an ex-Master Chief ?

Anixtu
Anixtu

If you take a look at aerial/satellite pics of Gibraltar you can see that a boom is in place at the southern end of the harbour where the naval berths and commercial shipyard are. It isn’t a heavy duty boom of the type depicted above, or as used at Faslane, but it is sufficient to discourage small craft from wandering into the sensitive part of the harbour.

Interactions with the Spanish do not take place within the harbour, they take place out in the bay, where boom defence of the entire expanse of territorial waters would be utterly impractical. It is possible that the area of the contentious artificial reef could be covered, but why do so?

I notice that TD’s parliamentary quote missed the context of the incident, which was the Gibraltar Squadron escorting RFA Wave Ruler in Gib TTWs as reported in the Gibraltar press.

Red Trousers
Red Trousers

Anixtu,

“…they take place out in the bay, where boom defence of the entire expanse of territorial waters would be utterly impractical.

Intriguing. What is it that makes such a boom in such a place impractical?

I can think of 2 reasons, either that the line itself is disputed (in which case the decision on location and emplacement becomes political), or that ships in the bay itself move around willy nilly.

Setting aside pure cost of several miles of boom, I don’t see any other obvious reason why such a boom could NOT be emplaced in the bay, with a gap in it to allow ships to come in and out of the territorial waters. But my knowledge is limited, so I am interested but impartial to solution.

Gloomy Northern Boy
Gloomy Northern Boy

@Jed – Must be – his Executive Assistant is Miss Cortana…

GNB

Anixtu
Anixtu

1) of course the Spanish dispute the extent and even existence of Gib TTWs. That’s what this is all about.

2) of course vessels move freely around the bay.

3) I estimate around 7 miles (nautical of course) of boom in up to 300m depth of water to enclose the TTWs of the bay from the border with La Linea to Europa Point, ignoring the TTWs south and east of the Rock. If you want an idea of the cost, grab a telephone directory. The whole idea belongs firmly in the realm of fantasy.

It would be cheaper and more effective, diplomatic fallout included, just to sink every Spanish government vessel encroaching on TTWs, and more in line with the nutty ideas about use of (non-lethal) force being bandied about in the other post.

Have you even looked at a map/photograph of Gibraltar Bay?

Red Trousers
Red Trousers

Anixtu,

(1) OK. There is an interim ruling that specifies interim boundaries. Putting a temporary line of joined up buoys up is hardly a challenge to international law. They can be moved.

(2) Boats can be re-educated, particularly if several example boats get trashed.

(3) 7 miles doesn’t sound a long way, even nautically measured. The technology doesn’t sound too expensive, per 10 metres. Concrete blocks and 300 metres of chain are not expensive. Given the amount of money the MoD is today slinging over to BAE Systems…

I’m quite familiar with Gibraltar, although more from the Spanish side of the border due to Mrs RT’s family villa being only about 5 miles (proper land based miles :0 ) north. I’ve crossed the border a couple of dozen times. Once even challenged myself to do my marathon training by running from the villa to Europa Point twice in a go. It is a mere conceit to cross an international frontier four times in one training run….

WiseApe

Bloody hell RT. I thought I was doing well walking up the rock and back down again. Would you believe some silly sod up near the Moorish Castle actually expected me to pay to walk up the road. I pointed out that had I wished to pay I would have taken the cable car!

Of course, now that I’m a contributing author to Think Defence, I expect I’ll just be waved through next time :-)

Paul Robinson
Paul Robinson

Totally frivolous comment of course, but many shark repellents on market, what about a variation on the pig slurry, & pigs’ left overs in the waters to attract the Great Whites that are supposed to be frequenting the Straits & Med more often now? The Spaniards will need a bigger boat, & maybe bankrupt em. No – my meds, small m, have worn off.

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