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Monty on Open Thread – August 2014@TD, Love the new look and navigation. Very slick and professional. Now we just need some new content. ; -) Mark on A Day in the Life of TaranisHas TD seen a major facelift looks to have gone all upmarket or has it been hacked? Tlam is in no way comparable to a strategic bomber, it's essentially a single 1000lb bomb. F35 carries 2 such sized weapons. The load you would design taranis for is 2 paveway 4...ArmChairCivvy on Open Thread – August 2014Wasn't the FEAR for the Tornado force 12, which makes a sqdrn (1)? Peter Elliott on A Day in the Life of TaranisAgree about the role of small smart missiles like DM Brimstone. My point about TLAM and what comes after it was to negate any suggestion of upscaling Taranis to strategic bomber size. No need to send UK crews into harm's way and expensively lug heavy loads through contested airspace. Keep...Peter Elliott on Open Thread – August 2014TD some evil sorcery is happening to your site! Stop it please and put it back how it was!!! Where is last comments feed?? The Other Chris on A Day in the Life of TaranisI do think there's crossover and that they can complement rather than compete with each other. Where I don't see them converging is in the platform. ISTAR typically benefitting from long endurance, lower speed, very high altitude. Contested strike typically benefitting from range (opposed to endurance), higher speed and varying...Mark on A Day in the Life of TaranisVery well put TAS Toc. Do you not think those two roles have begun to merger and will accelerate. Reapers already armed and tornado as can be seen at present can do either f35 maybe takes it one step further. There will always be bigger strategic istar aircraft but even...The Other Chris on A Day in the Life of TaranisI think targeting it as a successor to Reaper/Global Hawk is dangerous from a concept point of view. Those are, primarily, ISR assets which suggests a replacement would be weighted towards ISR. Whereas what I think the UK will need, given some pretty effective ISTAR assets already, is an "unmanned...TAS on A Day in the Life of TaranisTomahawk is a non-moving-target capable weapon with no laser-guide or controllable EO system and delivers a 450kg warhead which leaves a very big hole. Future ops, as ably demonstrated by the US in Iraq, are targeting mobile vehicles and time sensitive targets for which a 2-hour flight time renders pointless....Mark on A Day in the Life of TaranisPeter TLAM cant do Find, Fix, Track, Target, Engage and Assess aircraft have the potiential to do that with real time feeds. These may well be tlams successor. Peter Elliott on A Day in the Life of TaranisI'd be more inclined to look at this programme as a successor to Reaper and Global Hawk type capability over land and sea, with greater ability to operate in contested airspace. Develop it now for IOC in the 2020s. Our unmanned strike capability is TLAM and its successors: we should...Aec Rimmer on A Day in the Life of TaranisMonty and Mark, on a previous thread about Taranis I mentioned (mused?) about a manned, twin engine version. For me it could be a 6th generation light attack demonstrator for the UK. Part of me thinks that this would be only an exercise in manufacturing prestige; is it too early...Mark on A Day in the Life of TaranisThis demonstrator is about hawk sized a full sized version prob wouldn't be much bigger. To get to that size for a 2 man crew you'd be going for 2 engines, planform would need to scale size wise by about 30%, weight will prob double and development budget at a...Monty on A Day in the Life of TaranisI wonder how difficult / expensive it would be to design and develop a scaled-up version of Taranis with the option to have a pilot and navigator for long range strike missions with larger weapons payloads, i.e. as a tornado replacement? I am thinking of something along the lines of...Peter Elliott on Open Thread – August 2014Thanks Mark. That makes sense. One squadron's readiness compromised by regeneration / conversion. The other supporting 2 separate deployments of 9/12 planes while also trying to do normal training and currency at home. I see the stretch. And I'm sure come SDSR15 the case for more tiffy and f35 squadrons...a on A Day in the Life of Taranis"Looking at the thing more closely I think I can see bomb bay doors (whoopie)." Pretty sure those are the landing gear doors... as pointed out this is a small technology demonstrator, so no need for bomb bays anyway. And we already have an unmanned Vulcan replacement. It's called "Trident"....Mark on Open Thread – August 2014Thanks topman stretched indeed. Imagine the imagery interpretation units even more stretched Peter One of the 3 remaining tornado units is due to be the 5th typhoon sqn in about 6 months time which would mean people would be starting to convert now. It has been a full sqn deployment...Topman on Open Thread – August 2014@ ACC Both, but it depends on what you are doing. @ PE Flying and lots of it, plenty of training and currency to be done. They are all deployable but you can only support so many airframes. No nothing to do with QRA. Peter Elliott on Open Thread – August 2014So if one squadron is on Herrick what do the others do? Is there any operational tasking other than 3 in Cyprus and now these 3 in Nigeria? 6/24? (Presumsbly the Tornados have nothing to do with QRA?) Is the stretch to do with airframe maintenance or harmony guidelines? I...ArmChairCivvy on Open Thread – August 2014Mark, Topman, For recce,is it the a/c numbers or pods available that count? There was speculation that 5 of the super-duper someting could go onto the biz jet fleet, and that would leave 3 to be put on reapers, which is about the same as maintaining one continuous circuit somewhere...Peter Elliott on Open Thread – August 2014The Russian aid convoy has entered Ukraine without permission and without the ICRC. It is presumed to be heading to Luhansk. It will be interesting to see if the Ukrainian forces shoot it up. Is siege warfare against a city still considered a lawful practice? If so a food supply...Brian Black on A Day in the Life of TaranisA lot of unknowns, but we seem to be leading Europe in this area, which can't be a bad thing. I think an unmanned Tornado comparison is more likely than an unmanned Vulcan. A more marketable product for starters. And the bigger your ambitions at the start, the more vulnerable...Topman on Open Thread – August 2014I think the last Sqn's gone to Herrick. Yep they'll be streched down at Marham ever more so, they could scratch round 15 Sqn. All the BAE run support doesn't really help. Before they got involved we could draw on service manned sections across both Marham and ISL, sadly not...Observer on A Rather Large Aircraft Carrier"7 x 8 which even our finance minister cannot answer." Oh dear, was it the finance minister? Thought it was the education minister. That incident happened so long ago, amazing anyone remembered. Mark on Open Thread – August 2014http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2729776/Britain-send-three-Tornado-reconnaissance-jets-Nigeria-join-hunt-kidnapped-schoolgirls.html Didn't think we had any tornados left there is only 3 operational sqns after all when does the sqn return from afghan?