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  • The Other Chris on Open Thread – 2014 Week 48There was mention from MBDA a while back that CAMM (M in particular) had the capacity to engage surface targets if the MOD was interested. The MOD said this was not a requirement, but would be interested if development was at MBDA's expense. Anyone have more up to date information...
  • AndyC on Better Late than Never@ Martin That's it exactly. The F-35B is being introduced in simply too few numbers and over too long a time. The RAF/FAA would be almost foolishly optimistic to rely on there being 48 in service by 2020. While there are lots of Tornado spare parts around, the airframes have...
  • The Other Chris on Open Thread – 2014 Week 48Still chuckling at read-between-the-lines comparison of Wildcat and Apache... ;) Almost worth AW stumping up the circa £50m integration cost for Brimstone themselves just to really set the cat amongst the pigeons!
  • Engineer Tom on Open Thread – 2014 Week 48The UK taking the lead in developing a common set of interfaces for mission modules is great, but has the rest of NATO agreed to follow this lead or will in the future the US decide to do it's own thing and then we have to change so as to...
  • The Other Chris on Open Thread – 2014 Week 48Is that the first official confirmation of 24 x cell Mk41 and 48 x Sea Ceptor? EDIT: Also official confirmation that LMM to be called Martlet?
  • Simon on Open Thread – 2014 Week 48T26 can take two Merlin at a push? X will be happy at last :-)
  • Martin on Better Late than Never@ Simon - plenty of service life left in the Tornado fleet and heaps of spares. The issue with extending Tornado is navigators. Not much point in training up new ones for an aircraft soon to leave service when the aircraft that are replacing them won't need navigators. I think...
  • Not a Boffin on Open Thread – 2014 Week 48All very interesting, but largely fluff. "Adaptability" has been a KUR for the ship since 1999 when it had only just stopped being T22/23(R). They key phrase is the last sentence in the second paragraph, which is unfortunately somewhat less than the actualite. I suppose to be fair, the design...
  • Nick on Better Late than NeverSimon If we were to do that, wouldn't we need to have placed the order by now or very soon ? When will the UK production line shut ? - end 2017 without new export sales ?
  • Nick on Better Late than NeverAndyC, PeterE https://www.gov.uk/government/news/first-batch-of-f-35b-operational-aircraft-to-be-ordered I read elsewhere we're purchasing 14 on 4-4-4-2 schedule (4 in 2014 (or perhaps we should say 15 as the contract for this 14 isn't actually signed yet ?) to complement the three already ordered. To make it to 48, we'd have to order 34 aircraft in...
  • Simon on Better Late than NeverWhat about simply re-ordering the 24 Typhoon we sold to the Saudi's as T3 in 2017 and 2018 to bridge the F35 gap? Generally therefore we can see a one in (T3) one out (T1) from now-ish onwards, maintaining a fleet of around 120 Typhoon. This backs up the 6...
  • ArmChairCivvy on Better Late than NeverRE " For me the key to this is when Brimstone 2 gets integrated onto the Typhoon. If it can be brought forward to 2017 then I would rather see investment in the Typhoon and let the Tornado fleet shrink away. Thus by 2018 I would like to see 6...
  • Obsvr on Open Thread – 2014 Week 48Opening photo is a neat link to MPB&C Part 4. A flatrack carrying 10 ULCs containing 170 rds of 155mm ammo (assuming its a standard load and not carrying extra cartridges).
  • AndyC on Better Late than Never@ Peter Elliott It is starting to look like we might not be stuck at 7 frontline squadrons if the 5th Typhoon squadron stands up next April as there is plenty of chatter that it will. So in 2015 we have 5 Typhoon + 3 Tornado squadrons. Under announced plans...
  • Think Defence on Open Thread – 2014 Week 48To start the week http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/defence/141009_SoS_re_Type_26_Global_Combat_Ship.pdf
  • Jed on SDSR 2015 Sacred Cows #2 – Royal Marines and Parachute RegimentWhile only a standard dumb a old Matelot and then a Fat Stupid TA Bastard (TM) - I had the luck of having quality training time with the RM, of working with the old Commachio Coy and the old 3 Brigade Air Squadron, and have spent time at the old...
  • Martin on Better Late than NeverI don't see it as a wise idea for the UK to take on a large stock of AMRAAM's. I can't imagine the USA ever holding back stockpiles of it even for a UK sole operation. Plus allot of other EU partner nations also have stocks. I would much rather...
  • Red Trousers on Open Thread – 2014 Week 47Good Grief, TOC, there's need to get so moist in your knickers. It's only a spastic little jet and a spastic little boat. Hardly exciting. Not the sort of thing we should be worried about as (apparently) a world power. Jesus, if the Septics, Soviets, French, Italians and even the...
  • Dunservin on Military Pallets, Boxes and Containers – Part 6 Aircraft Pallets and ContainersDidn't Maggie Thatcher once fly to the Falklands in a C-130 loaded with a well-appointed, soundproof VIP ISO container?
  • Topman on Military Pallets, Boxes and Containers – Part 6 Aircraft Pallets and ContainersNot really an issue as there are broken down anyway, I guess it became the mil standard as it was more suited to cargo a/c. Normally there's loads of dunnage at any apod anyway. It would be ideal to have one pallet system, but I don't think anyone is likely...
  • DavidNiven on Military Pallets, Boxes and Containers – Part 6 Aircraft Pallets and ContainersI was thinking more along the lines of pushing straight out of the aircraft into an ISO, but I may be over thinking it as I presume the loads are a mix of various items and not specifically for a given unit. Although could it be done for ammo? Also...
  • Monkey on Military Pallets, Boxes and Containers – Part 6 Aircraft Pallets and Containers@DN You mean like this:- http://www.loading-automation.com/images/loadingautomation/site/productsolutions/bigphoto_6.jpg
  • Topman on Military Pallets, Boxes and Containers – Part 6 Aircraft Pallets and ContainersNormally plenty of dunnage is used and then, a bog standard fork lift then just move the air cargo pallets. If that's what you meant?
  • DavidNiven on Military Pallets, Boxes and Containers – Part 6 Aircraft Pallets and ContainersI wonder if anyone has toyed with the idea of removable rollers fitted to the inside of ISO containers so there is no stripping down of the pallets and cross loading at the other end?
  • ArmChairCivvy on Better Late than NeverMark, a good summary. Against the background that there was a division of labour for the Americans to do the nxt-gen bvr and the Europeans to deliver the same for short range. The former duly delivered, the latter had (amongst themselves) the usual t-and- throw so the Americans lost patience,...

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