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  • Peter Elliott on News story: MOD orders new fleet of cutting-edge Apache helicopters for Army"Up to 50" = 38 (Taking into account presumably the fall in the pound against the dollar)
  • UninformedCivvyLurker on News story: MOD orders new fleet of cutting-edge Apache helicopters for Armyhttps://www.govconwire.com/2017/05/boeing-awarded-488m-to-remanufacture-apache-helicopters-for-uk-military/ Found this after I posted.
  • Ericbee123 on News story: MOD orders new fleet of cutting-edge Apache helicopters for ArmyBoeing announced last week that the UK had sent a 448 million dollars order for 38 remanufactured Apache Guardians. Can't find it on the US government website or the Boeing sites I saw it on last week. Has this been a change of heart, hidden in the General Ekectiion government...
  • mr bell on Speech: First Sea Lord’s defence and security lecture to the City of LondonThe first sea lord is a brave man and very optimistic about the future. He cannot however put anything but a thin veneer of hope on what is a scandalous decline in Royal Navy manpower, hill numbers and capabilities under this Conservative government and the Labour government of Blair and...
  • Jon F on From Umm Qasr to Unmanned Warrior – Royal Navy Mine CountermeasuresHello, Great to see. Are you back? Or did you never go away?
  • Mark on From Umm Qasr to Unmanned Warrior – Royal Navy Mine CountermeasuresAs a next step it might be interesting to start to trial some of these systems on the new river opvs to see how that goes. If I was an irregular non government hostile force and I have access to coastlines near some of the important shipping choke points it...
  • jedpc on From Umm Qasr to Unmanned Warrior – Royal Navy Mine CountermeasuresAnother fantastic effort on a subject close to my heart, having a GSM(GC) for MCM ops in the Gulf during the Iran-Iraq war, things certainly have come a long way since the PAP104. I bet Clearance Divers still like to show off their Rolex's though...... :-)
  • Pacman27 on From Umm Qasr to Unmanned Warrior – Royal Navy Mine CountermeasuresGreat article TD. It shows the RN can do R&D properly (albeit still too slow for my liking) and that the decisioning is sound. I do think that the future is these systems working from Frigates or RFA motherships and not dedicated MCM vessels, but we will see.
  • Hohum on From Umm Qasr to Unmanned Warrior – Royal Navy Mine CountermeasuresOf course, less hulls means less availability. There has been some MMCM investment in recent years but SDSR15 promised significantly more through an anglo-french programme. Things have gone awfully quiet though.
  • JohnHartley on Thoughts on the FutureJanes is reporting that the number of AAC Apache being upgraded, is only 38, not 50. Does not leave any room for losses in a real shooting war.
  • HMArmedForcesReview on From Umm Qasr to Unmanned Warrior – Royal Navy Mine Countermeasureshttps://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/492800/20150118-SDSR_Factsheets_1_to_17_ver_13.pdf "By 2025, three of the oldest Sandown Class ships will be decommissioned, leaving 12 MCMVs in the fleet. " Will that affect operations?
  • Ian on UK Amphibious Capabilities – Today and TomorrowWell, after last nights Tory funding proposal there is no room for a genuine marine over the horizon capability. A plague on all their houses!
  • Hohum on Type 31 Frigate CapabilitiesNo more or less so than without the crane accident. Cranes are very easy to remove. It does highlight that the adjacent Pendennis superyachts facility is rather more impressive in terms of modernity than the yard in which the T26 class is to be built though.
  • The Other Chris on Type 31 Frigate CapabilitiesDoes the crane accident at Falmouth this morning offer A&P a development opportunity?
  • Michael Taylor on Thoughts on the FutureEnjoyed your paper very much and agree with all that was written, for me we invest in an amphibious capabilities. and have a proper amphibious force or do not have one at all. HMS Ocean going out of service with nothing to take over is crazy, it seems the MOD...
  • Hohum on Type 31 Frigate CapabilitiesThe T45 programme used a mix of modules built at Govan and at Portsmouth but transported by barge to Govan and achieved a sub one per year launch rate from no.1 slip. T45 has more or less the same footprint as T26 and it appears that the intention is that...
  • Not a Boffin on Type 31 Frigate CapabilitiesIf they're filling in no 1 slip then that makes some sort of sense, although it doesn't explain the barge dimensions. Personally, I still think there's not enough space outside to erect the ship and allow access to the existing halls for modules built elsewhere (the only way they can...
  • Peter Elliott on Type 31 Frigate CapabilitiesPleased to hear that Venator 110 at least is more than just a concept. I can't help thinking that an alliance of BMT and Cammel Laird to kick out 5 ships before 2030 would tick a lot of boxes industrially and militarily. Cost and politics are of course the unknowable...
  • Hohum on Type 31 Frigate CapabilitiesMy understanding is that the proposed Govan module build hall has been deleted from the plan, the SBOH will instead be used for module and block construction with the ships being assembled outside on the site of the former no.1 slipway (still being made a hard stand, hence the barge)...
  • Not a Boffin on Type 31 Frigate CapabilitiesThat'll be this one then? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP0SmUA7mEc But bear in mind that even that investment (the additional sheds along the waterfront at Govan to build the deck house units) looks to have been canned last year. Thirteen ships will of course be very difficult to get around, but one "might" argue...
  • Peter Elliott on Type 31 Frigate CapabilitiesAlso TD please can we have navigation buttons on this site please? Top, bottom and input, if you are determined to persist in having the input box sandwiched between the article and the comments...
  • Peter Elliott on Type 31 Frigate CapabilitiesHow can two non Clyde yards have been asked to price something that isn't yet defined? Is it the vapourware Venator 110 which is being priced? Or something else?
  • Hohum on Type 31 Frigate CapabilitiesThere is a promise to the Clyde work force that they will build 13 frigates, thats going to be very difficult to extricate the department from (because it will end up being a cabinet level decision). I have no doubt that other yard will be used as stalking horses to...
  • Not a Boffin on Type 31 Frigate CapabilitiesInterestingly - a couple of non-Clyde yards appear to have been asked to price a (complete) T31 build. Whether that goes ahead depends entirely of course on : a) what the T31 ends up looking like b) Whether the suggested price is anywhere near the budget The barge tender is...
  • Owl on Type 31 Frigate Capabilities@Hohum And like any profit minded business, they'll start closing 'excess' yards the instant they can to cut maintenance cost. We're having a dichotomy between a civilian business whose goal is profit and defence construction whose goal is capabilities even at a loss. Not to say defence spending gets a...

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