A400M Atlas News

Some new videos and a couple of interesting images from the Airbus Military A400M Atlas programme

Airbus Defence and Space – A400M Heavy Airlifter Delivery To The Point Of Need [1080p]

 

A VBCI fit check

 

 

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April 28, 2014 8:24 am

Pleasantly surprising to see feedback on the VBCI agreement so quickly.

TED
April 28, 2014 8:56 am

I want to see 2 puma h2s in it!!!

“#tightfit” ohh dear :(

TED
April 28, 2014 11:37 am

We have 24 Puma HC2s. 2 pumas per a400. (how many can we fit on a C17 btw?) we are meant to get 22 A400. That leaves 10 to fly out spares, maintainers, fuel, tents, etc.

Now that is air mobility

#makeithappen

Mark
April 28, 2014 11:56 am

1 puma per a400m, 2 per c17

TED
April 28, 2014 12:07 pm

@ Mark Ahhh….. :( Thats boring! I was getting rather excited then… (you just had to spoil it)

So we can lift all our pumas in one go with A400

Maybe we could AAR…

April 28, 2014 12:51 pm

If you ask nicely, @Mark may design something like this for your A400M Puma Transportation:

Chris
April 28, 2014 3:06 pm

TD, TOC, Ted – if only Puma had tail fold…

Tubby
April 28, 2014 4:28 pm

Presumably this is a fit check of VBCI to certify the A400M atlas for the French Air Force, rather than an indication that the MoD is about to buy loads of VBCI to fulfil the FRES UV requirement?

DavidNiven
April 28, 2014 4:47 pm

@Tubby

France received it’s first A400 on 2 August 2013, I would have thought that they had checked if the VBCI fits by now ;-)

@Tubby
April 28, 2014 6:38 pm

@DavidNiven

Only if they are more efficient than we are at certifying aircraft after all didn’t we bring Voyager into service before we had certified it for A2A refuelling? :-)

Tubby
April 28, 2014 6:53 pm
DavidNiven
April 28, 2014 7:02 pm

@Tubby

‘didn’t we bring Voyager into service before we had certified it for A2A refuelling?’

Good point, well made sir! :-) Although I have a gut feeling Phil will be making an announcement on VBCI in the not too distant future.

April 28, 2014 7:12 pm

I’m sure one of the variants of the Naval version Super Puma could fold up its tail boom back in the AeroSpatiale days (AS 332F). Buggered if I can find any more than photographs of the rotors folding though.

Tubby
April 28, 2014 7:22 pm

@DavidNiven

Well we can certainly hope so – at this point I would welcome anything that get FRES UV into service sooner rather than later. I just wish that we also getting rid of Jackal as well, as it worries me that we are having to develop doctrine for the light cavalry role around the equipment rather than the other way (i.e developing equipment to match our doctrine). Sorry if this post isn’t quite as tongue in cheek as the others!

DavidNiven
April 28, 2014 7:35 pm

@Tubby

Yeah agreed, we need to make a decision and buy something and get it into service. My only niggle with the VBCI is that I can see growth/upgrades further down the line being more of a problem over something like the Boxer with it’s modular rear. I think it will be easier and more cost effective to keep the Boxer upgraded for 40 years over the VBCI. (but like I say it’s just a niggle)

Gloomy Northern Boy
April 28, 2014 7:52 pm

@Ted – I want to see it fitted for MPA…with bombs/missiles…as an air support gunship…and in as many numbers as we can possibly afford… :-)

All in modular kits if course.

GNB

Mark
April 28, 2014 8:24 pm

TD may have shown this in the past but a slide with some of the load fits https://extendaplus.es/aeroespacial/files/2013/05/3.-Rafael-Nogueras17-Worldwide-Conference-A400M-Suppliers-20130523-v-2_Rafael-Nogueras.pdf

And a quick video. Of an ec725 loading

http://vimeo.com/67400379

Gloomy Northern Boy
April 28, 2014 10:28 pm

Testing – is the Open Thread Spam Monster out of control?

GNB

Chris
April 28, 2014 11:06 pm

GNB – I just wrote a long comment in reply to comments posted by yourself & x on Open Thread and got it bounced too. Maybe TD can dig out the Fray Bentos to satiate Spammonster’s appetite so we can get back to putting the world to rights.

Gloomy Northern Boy
April 29, 2014 12:05 am

@Chris – hopefully our wisdom will appear in due course – printed, cut into small squares, and hanging from a hook on the s**thouse door!

GNB

Chris
April 29, 2014 8:31 am

Comment now superfluous. Multiple access editing at work…

DavidNiven
April 29, 2014 5:07 pm

This is an interesting read:

warbus: the incredible saga of Europe’s a400m

http://static.reuters.com/resources/media/editorial/20100608/A400M.pdf

Brian Black
April 29, 2014 5:26 pm

Of course, with smaller vehicles you can also shift the palleted stores on the same flight that allow you to utilize the vehicle at the other end.

Maybe the MoD wants to get some cash committed to VBCI before the 2015 election, budget squeeze, and subsequent defence review throws a spanner into the works.

How many VBCI would four or five Type26 buy? The Navy doesn’t do a great deal nowadays.

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