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Adam Sugden
Adam Sugden
December 22, 2012 9:09 pm

tupolev all have something about them

with europeon engines and electronics it could have made a good replasement for the tsr-2

December 23, 2012 1:19 pm

*Nothing* can replace the TSR ^^

Coulda, woulda, shoulda…

December 23, 2012 8:07 pm

Impressive beast – thanks for sharing, TD.

“*Nothing* can replace the TSR” Dunno, I’d have settled for a squadron or two of B-70 Valkyries…. :D

Adam Sugden
Adam Sugden
December 23, 2012 11:26 pm

yes i would like a couple of squadrons B1 lancers

December 25, 2012 8:25 pm

What you really want are some squadrons of LAPCAT A2 bombers

Merry Christmas!

Adam Sugden
Adam Sugden
December 27, 2012 6:31 pm

we keep giving up are tecknilogical lead. with succesive guverments ending project jast as they are about to be completed.
tsr2, black arrow, hotol(that became reactionengines).
the shortsitedness is always astonding.
countless defence, science and enginering project wich could give the uk a technlogical lead and the goverment betrays its people and goes for the cheap option or to another country.
it is all very iritating.

Phil Chadwick
Phil Chadwick
December 28, 2012 1:28 am

Very impressive alright, but the Backfire was not a patch on the Vulcan when it was still in service..

December 28, 2012 12:20 pm

After a successful test plane, 10 more modernised Backfires were ordered in September. Reports on the operational originals vary between 30 and 40
– so not quite in the museum yet

steve taylor
December 28, 2012 1:23 pm

@ Adam Sugden

Yes HMG is very adept at doing that.

I was staggered when I found out how little REL ran on in terms of budget. And how little they wanted for the next phase of their work. If we Korea or Japan the government would be throwing money at this venture. As it is they would rather borrow money to give in aid and EU contributions. I just hope we get out of Europe before the French get their hands on REL’s tech. Saying that we are just as likely to give it to the US for nothing….

December 28, 2012 2:48 pm

In fairness, REL hasn’t quite done as much as people think. They’re not even close to producing a working a engine, and many of their claims about cost reductions have a distinct whiff of the “Shuttle Optimisim” about them.

El Sid
El Sid
January 2, 2013 9:31 pm

@Phil Chadwick

Afterburners give you a few options that the Vulcan never had when there’s fighters around. Ditto 400mile-range AShM’s….

Also worth noting that supposedly China are getting their mitts on some.