Comments on: Canadian Armour in Afghanistan

By: DominicJ

DominicJ — Sun, 16 May 2010 22:17:48 +0000

Jed
No target requires Javelin, Javelin is simply the best tool we have available.
I’m not convinced Challenger would be better, never mind best.

Would an upgunned warrior be just as good, it would certainly be cheaper to operate.

By: Richard Stockley

Richard Stockley — Sun, 16 May 2010 16:50:53 +0000

Dominic, the D9R armour kit weighs about 17 tonnes or so, an extra couple of tonnes of weapons etc ouldn’t make much of a difference. Possible precision mortar fit?

By: Jed

Jed — Sun, 16 May 2010 14:11:59 +0000

Ref “I dont see what targets we face that require 120mm direct fire rounds to engage”

Well, they would be the same ones we currently use very expensive, Imaging Infra-Red guided ‘anti-tank’ missiles to engage ! If we are using Javelin to “reach out and touch” small groups, or individual Taliban at medium range, at night, because the Javelin’s sight is so wonderful, then perhaps there is a role for some limited 120mm ‘sniping’

Or we could just ask the Canadians and Danish what kind of targets they find themselves shooting at ?

By: DominicJ

DominicJ — Sun, 16 May 2010 09:55:20 +0000

lol no, I’d just not thought of actualy arming the bulldozers too.

I was just wondering aloud how many militarised commerical diggers we could deploy for each military digger.
Cant imagine sticking a GPMG on them as well would lower their performance.

By: Richard Stockley

Richard Stockley — Sat, 15 May 2010 15:29:43 +0000

Is it that time of the month Dom? :-)

By: DominicJ

DominicJ — Sat, 15 May 2010 10:59:26 +0000

**looks suspicious**
Yes, arm the D9, that was exactly my point, I’m glad you picked up on it.

Yeah we could arm them too

By: Richard Stockley

Richard Stockley — Sat, 15 May 2010 10:48:40 +0000

Good point Dominic, how about arming the D9R with something a bit more potent than a GPMG? Jed could even have his 40mm GL!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:D9-idf_pic714.jpg

By: DominicJ

DominicJ — Sat, 15 May 2010 09:44:01 +0000

Although they (the engineering vehicles) do look quite nifty, are they any better than commerical kit?

For the cost of a single Challenger based engineering vehicle, how many D9 type bulldozers could we have?

The same goes for Leopard/Challenger, ok, I’m sure they’d be useful, but could a warrior do the same for less?
I just dont see what targets we face that require 120mm direct fire rounds to engage.

Would it be cheaper to returret a few dozen warriors with multiple 40mm grenade launchers (or a 120mm mortar to keep Jed happy)?
I’d be happy to argue they’d be much more effective.