Another contributor to our little blog, this time ripping one of my previous posts to pieces, the bloody cheek!
This is a riposte to my post about Afghanistan from Mark Nixon
I will drop my response (along with the dummy) in comments.
On December 9th, ADMIN posted Afghanistan, Who is Pulling Their Weight and concluded his piece with: “It is simply too easy a cop out, either NATO is a collective where all nations pull their weight in both blood and treasure or not.” Worryingly, the thrust of the argument is remarkably similar to the official UK approach to encouraging greater participation by European NATO allies.
As ADMIN points out, it is indeed “a widely help opinion that some NATO nations are not pulling their weight in Afghanistan”. But is there any solid basis for this opinion or is merely a UK-centric delusion that has only gained credibility through frequency of repetition. If you repeat a lie enough, it will become a truth, allegedly!
With this post, I hope to demonstrate that the (statistical) evidence produced to support this conclusion is beyond flimsy; and little more than UK-centric self-delusion of self-importance and self-righteousness. It’s an argument and approach that has proven to be more likely to dissuade than persuade our allies from greater participation. It is thus, counter-productive. Putting it bluntly, ‘we’ are simply demanding that more body bags leave Afghanistan with German, French, Greek etc bodies inside. Hardly the best way to encourage greater support, is it?
Firstly, I’ll look at the argument presented by ADMIN – which, as I’ve already mentioned is very similar to HMG’s line behind closed doors – and then I’ll present an insight into the non-UK-centric understanding of the issue and why there is reluctance on their behalf to become more involved.
As gown-ups, I’m sure we all accept the truism that one can ‘prove’ almost any argument with clever use (manipulation) of statistics. ADMIN has been rigorous in analysing the statistics ONLY pertaining to Afghanistan. The UK only has 9,500 troops committed to Afghanistan because it has walked away from its commitments elsewhere: Bosnia, Kosovo and Iraq for example, and opted out of other international missions in Chad and Lebanon to name just two. Is it fair to expect other countries to back-fill our premature departure from other missions AND match our commitment in Afghanistan? More on this later.
Then, considering the content of the statistics, all that is presented is a comparative analysis of current effort. There is no analysis of what outcomes that effort has achieved, or is likely to achieve. Moreover, there is no analysis of what constitutes the benchmark of pulling one’s weight.
I would argue that the resources and effort required to achieve the stated and desired results require a MASSIVE uplift and that the UK is no less guilty in this respect than any other. In fact, probably more guilty, given that the UK’s effort to desired outcome ratio has far greater divergence than the effort to desired outcome ratio of other NATO members. Is it an honest argument to measure others against ‘ourselves’ when ‘we ourselves’ have failed to produce? 10,000 troops may sound alot, but the weight of evidence suggests it is far from adequate to achieve the stated political and military goals.
Now consider this. Greece is presented as the prime slacker within NATO. Imagine that the Greek government decided to uplift their 145-strong contingent to a 1,000-strong BG in Kandahar. Instantly, they move from almost bottom position to 7th in the table of deployed to population ratio (1:11,260) – above Canada. They would still be near the bottom of the deployed to armed forces (0.6%), but given that the Greek military is artificially large due to conscription, this is hardly a surprise. Now, further assume that shortly after arrival a disaster struck the contingent and they lost 50 personnel in a Chinook accident. Suddenly, they leap into 1st place in the casualties to deployed (5%), 3rd place on the casualties per head of population (225,200) and 4th place in total casualties incurred. Almost overnight, the go from ‘worst performer’ to one of the ‘best’.
But ask yourself what have they achieved other than filling body bags? In what way has ‘success’ in Afghanistan been advanced? The statistics presented are not a guide to who is pulling one’s weight, they are a guide to who is suffering on the butcher’s bill.
Moreover, I would argue, that given the incoherence of policy aims, the collective inability to define and achieve mission success, those making the greatest effort are the greatest losers and the greatest fools. Those lurking in the bottom 10 are thus the wisest of the fools. Perhaps the only truly wise are those not represented in Afghanistan at all.
ADMIN premises his argument and conclusion that others are not pulling their weight on the basis that other NATO members are obliged to be involved in Afghanistan. This is a falsehood. Let’s look again at Article 5 of the NATO Charter, in particular the parts I have underlined:
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
In other words, each members state is only obliged to assist with whatever action it sees necessary to restore and maintain security in Europe and the North Atlantic. If Greece decides security has already been restored and only 145 troops are required in Afghanistan to assist in maintaining that security, then that is their decision. There is NO obligation to do any more. No member state is obliged to meet the level of effort that another provides. Every member determines its own level of effort and has no obligation to meet the demands of others.
Moving on to the second element of this post: the perceptions of the non-UK/US centric minded.
The UK/US accusation is that other NATO members are now unreliable and untrustworthy allies. This accusation is based upon their ‘failure’ to support UK/US intervention efforts more robustly. What the UK/US fail to grasp is that those very same NATO members will not increase their assistance because they see the UK/US as unreliable and untrustworthy allies and have no desire to be dragged into their ill-conceived foreign policy adventures. Who is right and who is wrong?
I consider that the rebuilding of Germany post-1945 should be the model for nation building. The economy and society were rebuilt in a manner that ensured the German people didn’t resort to further military means to ‘right’ self-perceived injustices as they did in the late 1930’s. The model provides benchmarks in respect of level of resources (financial and other), political capital, military effort and duration required of the international community.
In Bosnia in 1995, then Kosovo in 1999 and later Iraq, the UK proclaimed it was in for the long haul in nation building. None of the issues is anywhere near resolution. Nevertheless, the UK is already effectively out of the Balkans and Iraq and leaving it to others to worry about the long term. On each occasion, it left on the basis of others back-filling. It has also decided not to be part of UN/EU missions in Chad and Lebanon. The UK has gained a reputation for being very keen to trash places and then make a hurried exit to avoid the long term consequences of their actions. Many NATO members are fed-up being duped into these quagmires.
The UK/US has a problem of credibility. There is a significant credibility gap between their intervention theory, policy and intervention practice; a huge gap between the rhetoric and the results; and a MASSIVE credibility gap in their sincerity. Today, Tony Blair was on the BBC World Service opining over the Iraq invasion. He clearly stated that he would have taken the UK to war even in the knowledge that Iraq had no WMD – all he would have done is change his arguments as to why it was necessary. He opined on his (continued) belief that Saddam was a threat to regional security – bar Kuwait perhaps, none of Iraq’s neighbours believed that. He opined on how removing the ‘threat’ in Iraq would remove threats elsewhere, and so it went on. Many NATO members see UK foreign intervention policy as self-serving self-delusion and wish to take no part in it. Today, we heard more evidence to suggest they may well be right.
The current ‘strategy’ for Afghanistan seems to be to build Afghan security forces as quickly as possible and then exit. If I’m not mistaken, that was the Soviet Union’s exit strategy too. Look how that fared. Most analysts suggest the number of forces required to bring about a genuinely favourable environment for pull-out requires a massive uplift in forces. The UK could, if it chose to, do FAR more in Afghanistan than it already does – military, politically and financially. But it chooses not to. The UK is perceived as going round with the begging bowl to save it having to dig into its own pockets. The 10,000 UK troop level is an artificial ceiling based upon lack of political will to succeed. The UK is perceived as requiring help to reinforce failure not to bring about success.
And finally, even though there is no stated Alliance obligation for NATO members to up their footprint in Afghanistan, the argument has been made that they have a security imperative and a moral obligation to do so.
But have they?
It may well be the UK’s considered (no laughing in the stalls please!!!) opinion that international terrorism can be eradicated in Afghanistan, that the world’s drug problem can be resolved in Helmand and Europe’s immigration worries reduced, but is this ‘fact’ or ‘self-delusion’?
The evidence and arguments are at best incoherent, at worst a deliberate falsehood. Most NATO members simply do not accept the arguments that receive a good hearing in the Red Lion.
To sum up, it may well be the case that many, if not all (the UK & US included), are not pulling their weight in Afghanistan. But that can only be determined when a credible and universally recognised benchmark is presented as to what pulling one’s weight actually entails.
Mudslinging – that others are not doing as much as oneself – is neither helpful nor particularly honest given the issue and the historical background.
Before starting with the statistical part of the post I was at pains to point out the many many flaws of my approach and that they should be used a indicators only.
UK Centric, well yes, this is a UK centric blog, guilty as charged
The UK was a significant contributor to Bosnia, Kosovo and Iraq (back to back with Afghanistan,) I also point out in the post about non Afghanistan commitments, to quote “Some of these other nations are also heavily committed to other UN missions so as ever, things are not always what they seem”
There is the point about it being an analysis of current effort, again I make the point that the figures are presented as of now.
The benchmark of pulling or not pulling ones weight was simply the frequency of their appearance in the top 10 or bottom 10 of the 5 league tables.
The point about a Chinook accident is a fair one, it would skew the statistics without showing how valuable a contribution was, again, totally agree but also I would point to flaws in the analysis being identified in the post.
That said, it is a powerful and thought provoking post
I disagree with you both, but am rather drunk, and the missus is complaining at me so I’ll have to get back to you with detail
My post was a response to the often heard (and read) rants that NATO allies are failing to step up to the plate. It was a rebuttal of that line of thinking – rather than your post specifically. You simply provided the material to target.
To put it bluntly, there is ZERO obligation upon individual NATO members to provide resources beyond what they think is necessary. If the US and UK desires more help, they have to win the argument about the imperative to provide those resources. They have failed – and continue to fail – in this respect and have thus resorted to public bullying and shameing. It’s shallow, incoherent and counter-productive.
Then, if you consider why they have failed to win the argument, you then have to wonder what it is that ‘forces’ us to provide the level of forces we do.
My personal opinion is that to achieve the security environment that has any reasonable likelyhood of providing an exit strategy that will give a unitary or fragmented Afghanistan any hope of a future requires far, FAR greater resources than are currently deployed. In that respect, I consider even the US is falling considerably short of “pulling one’s weight”.
Struggling to write this in a way that makes sense.
That the UK cut and ran from the Balkans should have little to do with NATO members meeting treaty commitments in Afghanistan.
They all agreed to treat an attack on another as an attack on themselves, they clearly arent doing.
The EUFORs intervention amounts to waiting for all the fighting to end and then deploying some police troops, who dont do anything. Or did they get round to disarming Hezbollah in Lebanon, and have they gone to Sudan yet to stop the genocide?
The various members of NATO all have wildly differing views on what the organisation is for.
It needs serious reform, either throwing out its less commited members, however sensible that lack of commitment is, or reinventing itself as a standards board.
Gentlemen there a lies, damned lies and statistics.
Is there any basis for suggesting that certain allies are not stepping up to the plate? Yes, there are actually and these are not statisics but actual first hand evidence such as from this blog (http://billandbobsadventure.blogspot.com/2009/06/contributions.html):
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In January of 2008, at the German FOB in Konduz, SFC O was in the German TOC while they watched a group of insurgents set up rockets to fire at the FOB. The Germans could see them clearly on their sensors. The Germans possessed 120mm mortars which they could have easily used to put a stop to the insurgent’s activities. Instead, the Germans were calling in to their higher headquarters for permission to place magazines in their small arms. Not to load the weapons … merely to place magazines in them.
O nearly went ballistic. He asked them why they didn’t just mortar the rocketeers and get it over with. The Germans demurred. They were not permitted by their national caveats to engage, even when they saw the threat clearly and they were about to get rocketed. The Germans endured a brief rocketing (which never seem very brief when you are on the receiving end.)
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Given the choice between manpower statistics (of which their relevence to this debate is remote at best) and actual first hand evidence on the ground I’ll take the actual first hand evidence on the ground.
Now this might be a wild guess but troop numbers count for nothing if they’re not used either effectively or at all period. The fact remains that the Germans could have 100 or 100,000 men on the ground in Afghanistan but as long as they have to ask for permission to load their weapons, are confined to base during night time and are required to make loud noises if they encounter any suspected enemy ahead then they will be of little use to the security and rebuilding effort in Afghanistan.
This whole debate about statistics is thus a false one because its what you do with those people that matters. That is why the UK, Denmark, France and Holland are more valuable NATO partners than Germany, Spain or Italy.
In response to the comments by DominicJ and Prestwick.
DominicJ,
As I have pointed out DominicJ, there is NOTHING in the NATO Treaty that obliges NATO members to do anything at all in Afghanistan. Constant reference to this falsehood damages any credible attempts to persuade other NATO members to contribute more.
Every sovereign state has the right to choose what type of mission, and to what degree of effort it is willing to contribute. If other NATO members choose to do PKO only, so be it.
If you think that this attitude is wrong, and that they should be compelled to be more ‘hard power’ orientated, then you have to make a solid and coherent argument as to why. Simply chanting – falsly – that they are obliged to do so is counter-productive.
NATO certainly does require a spring clean in its understanding of its raison d’etre. But on what basis do you consider your vision to be the correct one?
Prestwick,
National caveats are indeed a pain to cohesive multi-national operations. However, all caveats were known to all in advance of deployment. German (and other) contingents were accepted in the full knowledge of what they could and would do.
For others to cry foul at some later date smacks of childish selfishness that they couldn’t get their own way.
this post is an example of why the EU will never be considered a super power.
military and economic might are required to achieve that status. by that reckoning the US, China and in the future Brazil, India, Russia can be called such but definitely not the EU.
i continue to marvel at the strong pacifist streak that is present in Europe. i truly wonder what it would take to have Europe engage in combat whole heartedly.
To understand the reluctance of European nations to get involved in military operations one simply has to go back 50-60 years. The effect of war on the peoples of mainland Europe was significant
I don’t think it is pacifism in the traditional sense but more reluctance based on long memories of the actual real affects on conflict, of which Europe has had more than its fair share of
I’m not so sure thats the case.
The Soviet States took the biggest hammering, yet went on to ignite proxy wars everywhere they could.
France fought several quite brutal wars as its empire tore free, not to mention Suez.
Portugal and Spain sat out the war, but fought like proper bastards to hold their empire, and now, wont fight. Spain saw being attacked as reason to surrender!!!
I think its much more recent.
The worlds changed, europe doesnt like it, cant understand it, and so does its best to ignore it.
In its own way, it still thinks it rules the world, we get plenty of sabre sheath waving, and plans to set up intervention forces, but they never actualy arrive.
Gentlemen,
Pacifism is not the only alternative to jingoism. There are plenty of grey areas between these two contrasting colours.
The EU is not a sovereign state. What you can call EU ‘foreign policy’ is nothing more than a wish-list of post-modern liberal democratic ideas. You cannot make coherent and cohesive foreign policy when 20+ individuals around the table have equal weight and equally opposing views.
And finally, to Solomon: who says the EU is attempting to become a world superpower under the terms of reference you allude to? I think you will find just about all European countries will do their utmost to defend themselves. If you don’t believe that fact, then remind yourself of how wee little Serbia faced down the entire NATO military machine.
You see Solomon, you are confusing pacificism with lack of imperialist desire. Much of Europe went through the ‘imperialst’ stage in their development during the 16th to 19th centuries. Russia continued up to the end of the 20th century and the US is still at it. Not wanting to involve oneself in fighting interventionist wars on foreign soil is doth not a pacifist make.